tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post2711086185984236832..comments2024-02-01T23:41:43.069-05:00Comments on Out of the Past: Super-Sensitive Viewer; How Violence Is NOT GOODRaquel Stecherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02687110907002450794noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-30302620212291176142010-04-02T10:52:03.926-04:002010-04-02T10:52:03.926-04:00lol, NO Quelle i wasnt referring to you at all, ju...lol, NO Quelle i wasnt referring to you at all, just talking about my own psychotic intensity when watching a new film. whatever works for you guys, go with it ;)<br /><br />some of the titles people listed as being violent to them really surprised me... Great escape, Star Wars...goes to show how subjective that kind of thing can be.<br /><br />i shoulda mentioned that there is one exception to my gory violence for sake of gory violence thing and that is Sonny Chiba, the Street Fighter freakin rocks, but it IS sickenly violent to the point of laughing at it (for me anyway, lol)<br />great post Quelle!<br /><br />i didnt mention it but i pretty much hate all sports but especially the ones where two guys just get in a square and beat the crap out of each other all the while people are cheering them on.Artman2112https://www.blogger.com/profile/03062864368596074661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-69011487910547919802010-04-02T09:39:05.220-04:002010-04-02T09:39:05.220-04:00Such wonderful comments. Thank you so much everyon...Such wonderful comments. Thank you so much everyone for sharing your opinions on the matter.<br /><br />Tommy - I agree with you. I highly admire Dan Hardy for persevering even through dire straits. If I came out with anything from the UFC 111, is that the human will can be strong enough to endure brutal physical pain.<br /><br />Mark - I didn't mean to suggest Carlos forced me to watch UFC after I said I didn't like violence. We were going to a birthday gathering which just happened to be at a trashy bar showing UFC. UFC wasn't the reason we were there. :-) He's a sweet guy, Honest!<br /><br />Artman - Happy Birthday BTW. Are you suggesting I blather on during a movie? I only asked Carlos a couple of questions because I wouldn't have watched Brubaker by myself and I didn't want to watch anything that was incredibly violent. So in a way, my talking during the movie was a good thing. Also, I really enjoy an interactive experience with movies. Sometimes I'll stop a film in the middle to do some online research or to discuss somethings with Carlos or a friend before proceeding. I still get swept away in the story though. I don't think that prevents me from doing so. I also sometimes take notes on the film as I'm watching it. But of course, that's me and you are different and that's what makes us all special!<br /><br />Jenny - Cult of Violence - that's dead on. Literally! I couldn't bring myself to watch Sin City. The violence was just too much. I think nowadays it's glorified.<br /><br />Mercurie - I don't mean to say violence shouldn't be in movies. The reason I wrote this post is just to point out how desensitized we are to it. That trashy bar was full of people who didn't even blink when blood spurted out of some fighters face. Where as I couldn't bear to look. I know you like scarier movies and that's okay by me!<br /><br />-------Raquel Stecherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687110907002450794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-53847892596411407802010-04-01T19:49:35.705-04:002010-04-01T19:49:35.705-04:00There is absolutely nothing wrong with being sensi...There is absolutely nothing wrong with being sensitive to violence. But at the same time I think there's nothing wrong with someone if he or she enjoys violent movies. For me they are a bit of a catharsis at times. At other times they are simply a sad reflection of the world in which we live. My major objection is only when the violence is totally gratuitous. As Tommy pointed out, reaction shots are often enough.<br /><br />At any rate, while I enjoy films like The Seven Samurai, The Great Escape, and even A Clockwork Orange, I find Ultimate Fighting disgusting...Terence Towles Canotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18397088843628331615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-60139229395849186672010-04-01T14:37:07.487-04:002010-04-01T14:37:07.487-04:00Very few films with ANY violence make my favorites...Very few films with ANY violence make my favorites list. A few with quite a lot are on my list (The Godfather, Star Wars, Bladerunner)but I always have to psych myself up for certain parts. I've only watched Psycho once. Even Charade bothers me a bit. The murders are too graphically depicted. I hate Tarantino and Peckinpah. I tolerate the Cohen Brothers but I like their less violent films more. I hat how their is a cult of violence among film fans. <br /><br />Good on you, Quelle for this post.Jennythenipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570881559181199994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-38261429963830416402010-04-01T13:31:29.119-04:002010-04-01T13:31:29.119-04:00generally speaking i do not like mindless type vio...generally speaking i do not like mindless type violence. films like Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco, Braveheart, Pulp Fiction and pretty much any war film are going to have violence on some level as a necessary part of bringing those worlds to life on film. to whitewash it would not be true to the characters or the situations. Films like Saw I, II, III, XXIII, or any of those cheesy slasher films etc etc have NO interest for me whatsoever. that's violence for the sake of violence. the "story" serves the violence, not the other way around. <br />i'm much more like you Quelle, though not quite as sensitive but i get totally carried into a film when i watch it. this is one reason i get really pissed when people wont shut up when watching a movie with me, unless its one we've seen many times and are discussing points of interest along the way. i rarely ever try to second guess the plot and would rather just enjoy it as it unfolds onscreen. its like how some people who start reading a book, actually go and read the ending, then finish the rest of the book?!?!?! where is the joy in that type of experience??!? i find a lot of people have no patience when watching a film and constantly ask questions about whats going to happen. for them it seems knowing what happens is more important than watching how it happens. to me though it's all part of the enjoyment. for the most part when i watch a film i've never seen before i prefer to view it alone. well, just me and my little kitty of course :)Artman2112https://www.blogger.com/profile/03062864368596074661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-55721850087901249662010-03-31T15:27:39.443-04:002010-03-31T15:27:39.443-04:00Let me get this straight: your beau says you shoul...Let me get this straight: your beau says you shouldn't let cinematic violence affect you because it isn't real, and then he escorts you to a night of Ultimate Fighting Championships, where you shouldn't let the violence affect you because it IS real? Huh?<br /><br />I have to agree with you, Quelle: movies represent reality in order to shape our experiences into an aesthetic and/or moral order, and the fact that cinematic violence isn't real is beside the point—-it doesn't represent itself as real. Unless the film is a docudrama or an actual documentary, the story is a commentary on reality, so that instances of violence stand in for the real thing, referring the viewer back to the world of real violence. To be disturbed by cinematic violence is both to empathize with the characters and to be disturbed by the actual violence that the story refers to.<br /><br />BTW--my wife had the same reaction to that opening scene in Beyond Rangoon, and I had to talk her into watching the rest of the film, which also includes many images of war violence, though it is an anti-war film.<br /><br />Have you ever seen Ingmar Bergman's Vietnam-era film "Shame?" One of the most powerful anti-war films ever made and almost no violence whatsoever. . .Mark Zerohttp://bookmarkzero.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155853741712764167.post-37380159196395487162010-03-31T12:06:36.762-04:002010-03-31T12:06:36.762-04:00There's nothing wrong with being sensitive to ...There's nothing wrong with being sensitive to violence, and I always appreciate the masterful directors who can shock us without resorting to bloody portrayals. Reaction shots are often more than enough. <br /><br />The Hardy/St.Pierre fight was pretty gruesome. Dan Hardy's perseverance cannot be questioned, and when his technical skills improve further I imagine he'll have that belt someday. He's a great showman and would be great for the sport.Thomas Pluckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17008022962076648740noreply@blogger.com